Raving in a post COVID world: An Analysis

[Talk Sick]

While some parts of the world prepare to gradually reopen their social spaces, the live experience economy in Toronto will require careful planning, if / when it does happen.

As of yesterday, Italy has allowed bars and restaurants to reopen, with strict distancing rules and mask wearing protocols.
By June, live music events of up to 200 people indoors and 1000 outdoors can return.

Some Berlin clubs have reopened as afternoon beer gardens operating with a food license. There is a no dancing rule, with a strict 10 pm curfew.

South Korea opened for one weekend and got decimated.

Netherlands will allow concert halls and theaters to open with groups of 30 starting June 1st. Groups of 100 starting July 1st.



So the questions are:

Assuming we follow similar opening guidelines, once we are given the go ahead to congregate in substantial numbers, will you feel comfortable going out again?
Would you wear a mask? Would you feel safer indoors with a small group, or outdoors with a larger group?
If Andy C comes to town for an event capped at 100 capacity, will you pay $150 for a ticket?
In your opinion, what are some guidelines we need to follow in order to reopen live experiences in Toronto?

Happy Tuesday Yalllll

[Symbiant]

$150 is pretty pricey yeah?

realistically it’s hard to say where this will all take us, considering that the extra curricular activities involved in raving crush the immune system. If everyone is responsible enough can work out in the long run. Think there needs to be more support from local talent rather than out sourcing over seas. My personal opinion. Masks will be pretty trippy and people will probably be creative about it! I think there is a need for it though.

[DS-Juan]

That’s a really great question actually. I’m unlikely to put myself in a situation where I’m in close contact with a bunch of strangers for some time, certainly not before the predicted 2nd wave in the fall.

even though events are much safer today than they were in 1999/2000.

Do you remember having to squeeze past sweating shirtless Ginos? I do 😳

even still, it’s going to be awhile for me personally

[Lone Dancer]

The first person who tries to emcee in my ear in a post COVID world is going to get jooked.

I bought face shields that clip on to a baseball cap and I'll defo be wearing one if we ever get to jungle rave again. Masks will be too sweaty.

I was already too old and too jaded for events that had thousands of people, so I'll be perfectly fine sticking to the smaller events indoors. I'd love to hit some outdoor events but I don't know of too many venues that have that.

Venues must allow me to bring in my own hand sanitizer and not confiscate it at the door. I don't trust junglists enough to think they are washing their hands properly.

[2bru_]

start with small local dj parties in open air public spaces..
Fort York, Sugar Beach, Sherbourne Commons etc.

would be fun!

[Symbiant]

The first person who tries to emcee in my ear in a post COVID world is going to get jooked.

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😂 amazing

hahahahahaha

[Talk Sick]

I’m unlikely to put myself in a situation where I’m in close contact with a bunch of strangers for some time, certainly not before the predicted 2nd wave in the fall.

This is an excellent point. And unfortunately one I was afraid of.

Will this have lasting social implications that will stay with us long after covid? Will people still hug when greeting each other? Are handshakes a thing of the past? Will people be reluctant to go out even after a vaccine or herd immunity is established?

Has clubbing changed forever? Or just for now?

[Mountain Dew]

I suppose like a crew of 10 ravers won’t be sharing one bottle of water.

[Symbiant]

This is an excellent point. And unfortunately one I was afraid of.

Will this have lasting social implications that will stay with us long after covid? Will people still hug when greeting each other? Are handshakes a thing of the past? Will people be reluctant to go out even after a vaccine or herd immunity is established?

Has clubbing changed forever? Or just for now?

Think the whole streaming thing is gonna be a bandaid for the time being. Think there def needs so be some form of monitoring in play. Hand sanitizer, checking temperatures etc.

[Talk Sick]

$150 is pretty pricey yeah?

If event capacity is capped at 100 people, superstar DJs will have to adjust their fees. But the reality is we don't need them with the amazing local talent in the city.

[Symbiant]

If event capacity is capped at 100 people, superstar DJs will have to adjust their fees. But the reality is we don't need them with the amazing local talent in the city.

Fair enough. I get it though, their demands and cost of living especially when it’s their source of income.

[JC007]

Do you remember having to squeeze past sweating shirtless Ginos? I do 😳

[Suga-B]

Think there needs to be more support from local talent rather than out sourcing over seas. My personal opinion. Masks will be pretty trippy and people will probably be creative about it! I think there is a need for it though.

It's going to be a while before many International flights are allowed, as many borders will be closed for a while until certain countries with highest cases improves or they find a cure. Getting international talent may not happen for a while. Going local is the way forward as you say!

[hydroxychloroquine]

Liberal pussies are ruining it for the rest of us who want to open back up and get things back to normal.

Not everyone is afraid of their own shadow.

It's just a Flu!

[Smurfy]

This is an excellent point. And unfortunately one I was afraid of.

Will this have lasting social implications that will stay with us long after covid? Will people still hug when greeting each other? Are handshakes a thing of the past? Will people be reluctant to go out even after a vaccine or herd immunity is established?

Has clubbing changed forever? Or just for now?

We are definintley coming out of this experience is a new paradigm. The handshake is dead. I knew that from the get go but thats an aside from the two real talking point here, has clubbing changed forever? Yes, but not just clubbing, the entire face to face interaction of a "normal" society has changed. Covid will now be a demarcation like 9/11, pre and post covid worlds are two very different world models, in my opinion.

the second talking point, is about streaming.. has streaming proved that most ' club nights can be a live stream, rather than a club night?" very much to the extent of "the meeting could have been an email"

will live streaming have the same effect as uber eats/ skip the dishes had on hospitality..? cutting out the server bartender as a middle man? Live streaming has cut the club/promoter out of the middle man role, and to me, thats the scariest part of this. Yes its brilliant to have access to live music, new music from my living room but its starting to feel more and more like "Demolition Man" AND "1984" mashed up into one weird place to be.

[Sheepzilla]

Unfortunately, I don't see things being "normal" for a while. I know I'm avoiding large events until it's guaranteed that I'm safe.

I don't think how people interact changes permanently though, assuming there's a vaccine, people will all be shaking hands and hugging just like we used to.